Again..I repeat... the "traditional" form that Christianity has taken..whether Catholic..Portestant..of any of the other masquerades that have labeled themselves "Christian", (one who follows Jesus in its "original" usage), is a monarchial (like Babylon), form...the King..the tallest (figuratively speaking like Saul was chosen because he was the tallest..important point!) and the raggedy hippy type "prophet" Samuel was pushed aside by "the people" who shout "We want a King..”give us a King”..”All Hail the King”..”he is a strong man..he is our leader like the other nations"(denominations), as the beat goes on and on and on until we reach our very own "times"..absolutely nothing has changed in the “people”..they still today clamor for a Kong to rule over them..a really “soft touch” for the Antichrist to come..Oh Dear! (our last chance folks to get it right..will we?.at this rate only a few will.. and they do not know each other yet..but presumably there are a few who truly desire to know "what in the heck went wrong?
The New Testament is abundantly clear when describing "church government"..but the weight of tradition is even stronger, and the true..unadulterated..undiluted..naked..word of God says that Elders (overseers) were placed in charge of every single church (one church in each town please..no fractures or cracks..no disunity..one single "unified"
"Spirit filled”, and in love with each other..commuity of believers.and out of your "elders" (overseers..it is a verb) you have your absolutely vital to the health and growth and maturity of that community , Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers..(ministers of helps also), For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: KJ as ministers..offices..five fingers on the hand to work "TOGETHER", in submission to each orther..no King..off with their heads..fire them they are simply in the way of God, (we are all “potential” kings and priests remember?). That is what the word says..but that is not what the church does is it?
(In fact the church still stones prophets..I see them at the side of the road everywhere, sadly lamenting their grief when their, local church” ignores them are calls them “rebels”, troublemakers, sinply because the corset that has been strtaped around each and every church holds only the pastors belly to help him stand straight and tall each Sunday.
The most beautiful example of this blueprint for "Spiritual Power" for the people of God, is when David desired to bring the Ark of Power into Jerusalem but was meeting with terrible consequences every time he tried to "move the ark" into the city..people died that were trying to assist him..because they were not handling the Ark correctly..as explained in Gods word..so David in his ignorance of the word (in that particular iinstance..otherwise he did quite well and even wrote quite a few fantastic visions in poetry filled with revelations and inspiration and prophecies), ..but even he was dumbfounded and puzzled about how to bring the ark of "power"..the supernatural power we so need today..into the City of God..Jerusalem. So he stored the Ark in a barn until he could figure it out.
Then one day he had an epiphany..a realization from above and from Gods word..he needed six priests carrying the ark together in unison, each step in concordance and unison and harmony..each step together, then a sacrifice was needed..then another step and another sacrifice and so on and so forth until they went into the city "together" in unity,,in harmony...in “love” and in concord. That my dear friends is exactly what needs to happen today..again..to "restore the Tabernacle of David that has fallen "as in the day of old. (Kevin Conner and Graham Truscott each have written books dsetailing this key to the restoration of the church..TODAY!.
Are there toda,y six men in one fellowship that are totally submitted to each other? If you find that rare group they are highly qualified to lead the church into the New Jerusalem.
Acts 16... “After this I will return And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; I will rebuild its ruins, And I will set it up; So that the rest of mankind may seek the LORD, Even all the Gentiles who are called by My name, Says the LORD who does all these things.' NKJV
Then David assigned a certain number of Levites to minister unto the Lord 24 hours per day. Think of that..24 hours of praise and wordhip..not bad for a bunch of ancients with no ijnternet..no TV’s..no drugs from the pharmacy..no fancey cars of airplanes, just God and His Holy Spirit and the Ark of POWER.
Friday, May 21, 2010
Elders vs. "a Pastor".or.."Wheres the Beef"?
The early church (more pure and rightous and "spiritually" powerful) had an adminitraive form exactly opposite from the historical church that we keep analysing..reforming..tinkering with, and wondering "Where is the Beef? Where is that original power that fired it up at Pentacost?
I say and I see in the New Teatament that it was organized along far different lines by the Holy Ghost through the Apostles that Jesus appointed to "kick start" His body of believers..there fore His design and His Master plan to be His people and to earn the name "Christian" a FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST.
Let me begin this review with a simple truth about what went wrong and just "How" wrong it became because of one simple misstep..one simple form that has become the blueprint since the Roman System took over for the next 1,000 years.
The title Pastor..the word P A S T O R is not in the New Testament at all...
The word Pastor is not in the New Teatament for you Bible scholars (?), students (?), out there, the plural form of the word appears once only, "pastors" as a description of one of the five separate and distinct offices or functions or expressions of the group of elders as defined in Ephesians 4;11, "And to some, his gift, (to the church) was that hey should be, ,apostles, prophets , to some, evangelists, to some pastors, and teachers.
The word efders appears over sixty 60 times in the New Testament for you slow at learning, hard of hearing, or visually handicapped, (read blind.) I count five different, distinct offices, don't you? Five different types of manifestations of the Spirit through your TEAM, or pool of elders or "overseers", That doesn't imply there should only be five principal elders either, Five is not a magic number, there may be two prophets, seven evangelists, three pastors and four teachers for example, the number five is to show the various manifestations or channels of the Spirit, moving through the local (holy) ground or LOCALE, (example Church of Ephesus, Church of Corinth, Church of Rome, Church of San Fransisco, Church of Topeka, Church of Dallas, Church of Singapore, Chirch of Moscow, Church of Peking, Church of Paris, Church of London, and so forth and so on) each local church is necessary , in otder to form a healthy limb of the One True Body, the Universal Church Triumphant. The five fold ministry is likened to the five fingers on the hand of God in the "local" Church, as an appendage of the larger mystical and corporate body.
Let's get it right for once before the Lord returns. Let's really present Him a Church that is united under the banner of Love and Unity of the Spirit operating in unison under One Head, that follows the model given to us in the Bble, written by the Holy Spirit through the Apostles and built on the Blood of the Saints during the birth pangs of the Church almost two thousand years ago. Not this ugly, man made, tradition bound, hundred thousand headed hydra passing itself off as the Lords Church. I think the title"Practicing Christians" is a very appropiate term, they are still just "practicing". Well, they have been practicing for too long now. It's at least time for a Recital.
How God designed a local church where the brethren had to learn to love one another since they were yoked together in a union as overseers of the flocks they were responsive for as ELDERS.
Paul now..not Saul any longer, now a man aflame for Jesus did this....
Tit 1:5
For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in
order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every
city, as I had appointed thee:
In every town he came to he preached the gospel..souls were saved..he taught them..asked the Lord, who are the elders here Lord? The Lord showed him and he ordained them..period., real simple so far right?
Ac 14:23
And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
church had elders right?
Ac 15:2
When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
so the main church then in Jerusalem had elders also right?
Ac 15:4
And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
more of the same..OK so far?
Ac 15:6
And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. pretty simple
Ac 15:22
Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Ac 15:23
And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria an Cilicia:
Ac 16:4
And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.
Ac 20:17
And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.
Did he call for the priest? pastor? senior elder? NO
Ac 21:18
And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
1Ti 5:17
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially they who labor in the word and doctrine.
Tit 1:5
For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
Heb 11:2
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Jas 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Oh for the miracles of healing elders again. gee will they never stop? When do we get to the part where my church is described? We just have a apastor and a bored..Oops board.how come we are so different from what the bible says?
1Pe 5:1
The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
So Peter was an elder? appearantly
Re 4:4
And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed
in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
why not four and twenty pastors? evangelists, prophets? priests, bishops, because Gods word says elders thats why. Do you want to be seated about the throne, clothed in white raiment? Well then let’s get down to business with Gods Word, OK?
Re 4:10
The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and
cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
so elders have crowns? they are from a Royal Priesthood and are called elders the highest title you can attain too.
Re 5:5
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of * the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Re 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Hey, these Elders are real close to the Lord..real tight. I like that
Re 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Re 5:11
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
Re 5:14
And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
Re 7:11
And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshiped God,
Re 7:13
And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they ?
Re 11:16
And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshiped God,
Re 14:3
And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Re 19:4
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
The KJV Strong's Version
So dear christian..it should be abundantly clear that the original church, the one that we claim to be inheritors of, and members of had a substantially different form of government that our churches today. What is wrong with following a single leader which we have today? Let’s examine the biblical reasons first then the psychological.
First of all let’s look at Gods word again.
The natural tendency iingrained in mankind for eons is to look for leadership outside ourselves. To look for that special leader, that person who takes more initiative, organizes, leads, inspires, (like Aaron.speaks well), disciplines, teaches, corrects, has visions on behalf of the group, and has “spiritual insights” experience beyond the norm. People are attracted to those kind of leaders by nature..but is that spiritual? Appearantly not according to the bible.
God wants everybody to hear from Him and act as His prophets, His agents on earth, but the people are not willing. Remember Moses in his assignment as leader of the people and the incident when Moses had to climb the mountain and sojourn with God? The people said Moses you go talk to God he is so scary so you go face him since you are the leader.
In other words the people do not want or are unwilling to assume responsability in matters of such gravity and such profound consequence.
to be continued...
I say and I see in the New Teatament that it was organized along far different lines by the Holy Ghost through the Apostles that Jesus appointed to "kick start" His body of believers..there fore His design and His Master plan to be His people and to earn the name "Christian" a FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST.
Let me begin this review with a simple truth about what went wrong and just "How" wrong it became because of one simple misstep..one simple form that has become the blueprint since the Roman System took over for the next 1,000 years.
The title Pastor..the word P A S T O R is not in the New Testament at all...
The word Pastor is not in the New Teatament for you Bible scholars (?), students (?), out there, the plural form of the word appears once only, "pastors" as a description of one of the five separate and distinct offices or functions or expressions of the group of elders as defined in Ephesians 4;11, "And to some, his gift, (to the church) was that hey should be, ,apostles, prophets , to some, evangelists, to some pastors, and teachers.
The word efders appears over sixty 60 times in the New Testament for you slow at learning, hard of hearing, or visually handicapped, (read blind.) I count five different, distinct offices, don't you? Five different types of manifestations of the Spirit through your TEAM, or pool of elders or "overseers", That doesn't imply there should only be five principal elders either, Five is not a magic number, there may be two prophets, seven evangelists, three pastors and four teachers for example, the number five is to show the various manifestations or channels of the Spirit, moving through the local (holy) ground or LOCALE, (example Church of Ephesus, Church of Corinth, Church of Rome, Church of San Fransisco, Church of Topeka, Church of Dallas, Church of Singapore, Chirch of Moscow, Church of Peking, Church of Paris, Church of London, and so forth and so on) each local church is necessary , in otder to form a healthy limb of the One True Body, the Universal Church Triumphant. The five fold ministry is likened to the five fingers on the hand of God in the "local" Church, as an appendage of the larger mystical and corporate body.
Let's get it right for once before the Lord returns. Let's really present Him a Church that is united under the banner of Love and Unity of the Spirit operating in unison under One Head, that follows the model given to us in the Bble, written by the Holy Spirit through the Apostles and built on the Blood of the Saints during the birth pangs of the Church almost two thousand years ago. Not this ugly, man made, tradition bound, hundred thousand headed hydra passing itself off as the Lords Church. I think the title"Practicing Christians" is a very appropiate term, they are still just "practicing". Well, they have been practicing for too long now. It's at least time for a Recital.
How God designed a local church where the brethren had to learn to love one another since they were yoked together in a union as overseers of the flocks they were responsive for as ELDERS.
Paul now..not Saul any longer, now a man aflame for Jesus did this....
Tit 1:5
For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in
order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every
city, as I had appointed thee:
In every town he came to he preached the gospel..souls were saved..he taught them..asked the Lord, who are the elders here Lord? The Lord showed him and he ordained them..period., real simple so far right?
Ac 14:23
And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
church had elders right?
Ac 15:2
When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
so the main church then in Jerusalem had elders also right?
Ac 15:4
And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
more of the same..OK so far?
Ac 15:6
And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. pretty simple
Ac 15:22
Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Ac 15:23
And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria an Cilicia:
Ac 16:4
And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.
Ac 20:17
And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church.
Did he call for the priest? pastor? senior elder? NO
Ac 21:18
And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
1Ti 5:17
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially they who labor in the word and doctrine.
Tit 1:5
For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
Heb 11:2
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Jas 5:14
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
Oh for the miracles of healing elders again. gee will they never stop? When do we get to the part where my church is described? We just have a apastor and a bored..Oops board.how come we are so different from what the bible says?
1Pe 5:1
The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
So Peter was an elder? appearantly
Re 4:4
And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed
in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
why not four and twenty pastors? evangelists, prophets? priests, bishops, because Gods word says elders thats why. Do you want to be seated about the throne, clothed in white raiment? Well then let’s get down to business with Gods Word, OK?
Re 4:10
The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and
cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
so elders have crowns? they are from a Royal Priesthood and are called elders the highest title you can attain too.
Re 5:5
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of * the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Re 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Hey, these Elders are real close to the Lord..real tight. I like that
Re 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Re 5:11
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
Re 5:14
And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
Re 7:11
And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshiped God,
Re 7:13
And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they ?
Re 11:16
And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshiped God,
Re 14:3
And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
Re 19:4
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
The KJV Strong's Version
So dear christian..it should be abundantly clear that the original church, the one that we claim to be inheritors of, and members of had a substantially different form of government that our churches today. What is wrong with following a single leader which we have today? Let’s examine the biblical reasons first then the psychological.
First of all let’s look at Gods word again.
The natural tendency iingrained in mankind for eons is to look for leadership outside ourselves. To look for that special leader, that person who takes more initiative, organizes, leads, inspires, (like Aaron.speaks well), disciplines, teaches, corrects, has visions on behalf of the group, and has “spiritual insights” experience beyond the norm. People are attracted to those kind of leaders by nature..but is that spiritual? Appearantly not according to the bible.
God wants everybody to hear from Him and act as His prophets, His agents on earth, but the people are not willing. Remember Moses in his assignment as leader of the people and the incident when Moses had to climb the mountain and sojourn with God? The people said Moses you go talk to God he is so scary so you go face him since you are the leader.
In other words the people do not want or are unwilling to assume responsability in matters of such gravity and such profound consequence.
to be continued...
How to "jettison" the "Fascist" form of Christianity
"Those who do not learn from there own history are "doomed" to relive it"
or...
"What goes around comes around"
reexamining the F word...
Fascism is almost a non word in our political discourse today.even though it is rampant throughout the world and is active in every country of this war weary planet. Fascism needs to be discussed (again, like in the thirties and forties) because it has simply taken on a new more sleek and acceptable form. It is now in the board rooms, the media, the entertainment industry, the trinkets we buy at our malls, and in the politicians wallets since most politicians rely heavily, (almost exclusively), on their corporate sponsors in order to run their expensive campaigns. In other words it is now a "way of life" for the entire population.
The F word is old fashioned and archaic some say, and is not very useful anymore to define the power structure we face every day..
well maybe, but in the meantime..here is what I say..
Until the creation of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and the Constitution, the political/religious authority was bound up in the King (Caesar principle, I shall call it), ) tradition. It thrived in and dominated the Western world throughout most of our history. Now, in theory, we no longer have a King, but in fact, the office of President, with the cooperation of the Congress and the blind Judicial system, has gradually eroded the "New Order of the Ages" (established by the Brotherhood,) until today the President governs by "fiat" again. (Harry S Truman spooks the government and establishes the National Security Agency and the CIA in an end run around the snoozing populace and Congress, ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz, sound asleep in their belief that Fascism and Hitler were dead.) (NOT) Executive, National Security Memos, now can commit the sleeping citizenry to wars and global "racist" policies, as was done in our ten year national anguish called Viet Nam, as we poured innocent blood over the steaming jungle villages of Southeast Asia, in a psychedelic and frenzied Apocalypse, then and now. Today, as if the citizens have been “all doped up” it happened all over again in biblical Iraq, as the Christian church snores from shyore to shore.
The powers that took charge of the United States government after World War Two, (the last Righteous ala Augestine real world war,) created a "smoke and mirrors" shift in our attention, like the magician that has you looking "over there" while he tricks you with his other hand where you are not looking. "The shift" was to focus all our attention on the "threat" of Communism and Socialism, so we would forget the "continuing, imminent " threat” of Fascism that went underground until the "heat was off". Many, “doctors, scientists, assassination specialists, mind control experts, and “loyalists” of the Nazi elite, were secretly and "illegally" brought into the United States and given new positions of power and authority within the bureaucracy of the secret "unelected" government, hidden behind the closed closet doors of the National Security State and its satellite agencies all over the world.. (More on this later),. Governments come and go, administrations as well, but the agendas of the NSA (National Security Agency), CIA, National Security Council,and other less public agencies hidden within the Federal Government ,behind Black Budgets, secret and invisible from the prying eyes of you and “eye”, continue, undetected, and free to perform their own unconstitutional agendas.
According to the Declaration of Independence, it is incumbent on the citizenry to closely monitor the actions of their leaders or risk the loss of their Liberties, de facto. With the establishment of the "National Security State, the "secret" state within the state, the Constitution was secretly shredded, raped, and violated, and a coup d' etat occurred. The United States is really being governed by an unelected unprincipled, covert and secret bureaucracy, floating above the huffing and puffing heads of our "duly elected" (sound of canned laughter, read, bought and paid for by the corporate elite) Congressional, Executive, and the Judicial bodies, like dark Avenging Angels.
We the People... are cut off from the decision making process entirely. If "they" want a war in Viet Nam, and the President does not cooperate, they assassinate him and install their "hand crafted in Texas", puppet to "Face the Nation" and take the political heat. The Multi- National Corporations One World economic system is guarded and advanced by the National Security State, and whoever gets in their way, be he President, Politician, or John Q. Public, is soon eliminated, disgraced, or bought out.
There is a cost incurred when you shop for freedom.
THE PRICE OF LIBERTY IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE.
Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, with the cooperation of all the major media whores, (talk about a conspiracy), grabbed the attention of the American people, in a choke hold with one hand, while through the backdoor, the Nazis that "The Keepers" chose to spawn new schools of piranhas in our bloodstream, were waved in with the other hand, (without their green cards), into the inner sanctum of the government bureaucracy, to occupy their new desks and reestablish their agendas all over the world , to prepare for the sequel to the Third Reich, the Fourth.
Joseph R.McCarthy, as a Freshman U.S. Senator from Wisconsin, argued on behalf of Nazi War Criminals, that had been sentenced to death or long prison sentences, for their crimes, including the massacre of unarmed, U.S. Army prisoners of war, in the town of Malmedy in Belgium, during the last major confrontation with the Nazis at The Battle of the Bulge. After a brief period of Congressional "hard of hearings" and the trumpeting of the Press, McCarthy, and the beastly brain trust languishing in their unholy inner sanctum deep in the bowels of the U.S., Governments' bureaucrazy, eventually succeeded in having them all released, and their sentences commuted. None of them were executed or none even served out there sentences for their crimes, thanks to Joseph McCarthy, the darling of the Right, and the United States Press,in concert with the Congressional leaders (looters) at that time and the silent, snoring, sound asleep, church.
The bulk of the rest of the Nazi "management team", had scattered to their "predesignated" sanctuaries all over the world. Sanctuaries in Spain, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Bolivia, as well as the United States, had been quietly created by Hitler for his strategic retreat and safe Exodus of most of his demonic Vempire, in the slickest con job in the history of planet earth. The Vatican assisted the Con, by secretly and quickly dressing the principal Nazi Warlords in their appropriately black, priestly (or beastly) garments from the wardrobe closets in Rome, to enable the entire ensemble to pass unnoticed from the stage of the Second War For The World, to start rehearsals for the next song and dance extravaganza; "The Destruction of Godless Communism by the Neo-Fascist West, Cha Cha Cha." Starring Caesar in his centuries-old role as warrior against socialism and the sharing of the means of production with the people that actually produce it.
Let's study for a moment Hitler's strategy used to gradually indoctrinate and "program" or "brainwash" the entire nation of Germany (and much of the rest of the world including Amkerica before hostilities reached the firestorm we call World War Two, to accept him as the Father of the Motherland. Just a quick look at the recent past to make sure we won't repeat it, because, "those that neglect to study the past are doomed to repeat it", Okay? And besides, Doom has such a final ring to it.
At this point I shall defer to the expert on Fascism and political leadership in the application of the Caesar Principle, none other then the man himself, the incomparable Mr. Fascism, Adolf Hitler. (sound of thunderous roaring and hysterical applause)
I will show you how he hoodwinked the whole nation of Germany, the "Christian churches..there and here.. and nearly hoodwinked the entire world, and continues to hoodwink us to this day. His Agenda is still operating,with or without his directions, because it is so successful and it is the agenda of Babylon the Great, the whore that has for centuries grown fat and strong in her riches and splendor, by her persistent use of the Caesar Principle.
In driving out the Jews I remind myself of Jesus in the Temple. "Just like Christ I have a duty to my own people."
Adolph Hitler
Hitler was always the guiding spirit in Nazi propaganda and usually plans the broad lines that are to be followed He developed the concept of a "mythical" personality. As soon as he came to power new weapons for self aggrandizement were put into the hands of the propagandists and they made good use of them. Unemployment dropped off sharply, roads and hghways that Germans never dreamed of sprang up overnight. New and imposing buildings were erected with astounding rapidity. The face of Germany was being altered at incredible speed. Hitler was keeping his promises he was accomplishing the impossible. Every success in diplomacy, every social reform was heralded as world shaking in its importance. And for each success Hitler modestly accepted the credit. It was always Hitler that did this, and Hitler that did that, provided the acts were spectacular and met with the approval of the people. If they happened to meet with disapproval, it was always one of his assistants that was to blame. Every effort was made to cultivate the attitude that Hitler was infallible and was carrying through his mission to serve Germany.
It was not long before the people were prepared to take the short step of seeing Hitler not as a man but as the Messiah of Germany. Public meetings, and particularly the Nuremberg rally, took on a religious atmosphere. All the stagings were designed to create a Supernatural and religious atmosphere, and Hitler's entry was more befitting a god than a man. In Berlin one of the large Art galleries, Unter der Linden, exhibited a large portrait of Hitler in the center of their display window. Hitler's portrait was entirely surrounded as though by a halo, with various copies of a painting of Christ. Notes appeared in the press to the effect that "as He spoke, one heard Gods mantle rustle through the room". Zimmer reports that on the side of a hill board in Odenwold, conspicuous as a waterfall, painted on white crosses were the bold words
We believe in Holy Germany.
Holy Germany is Hitler.
We believe in Holy Hitler.
(Patsy Zimmer "2019 days of Hitler", Harper Brothers l940 p.84)
Quote from Hitler "The psyche of the broad masses does not respond to anything weak or halfway. Like a woman whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason then by indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power, and who for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong leader rather than the weakling- the masses, too, prefer a ruler or strong leader to a pleader.
( the visable badge of feminine unworthiness was disbarment from the political kingdom. One of the earliest Nazi ordinances of Jan. 1921, excluded women forever from holding leading positions in the Nazi party. Anti-Feminism served as a non-lethal variant of anti-Semitism. Just as the latter fused divergent resentments into a single hate syndrome, anti-feminism provided men with a opportunity for abstracting a whole complex of feelings; pater familias, authoritarianism and permissiveness, on the grounds that they (women) cannot think logically or reason objectively since they are governed only by emotion.)
Heinz Holne, in his studious history of Hitlers S.S. says, "the similarities between the S.S. and the "Society of Jesus"(Jesuits) is astounding. Each was an Order conferring enormous privileges om its members, subject to no temporal jurisdiction, protected by the strictest conditions of entry and held together by an oath of absolute obedience to it's Lord and master- Pope or Fuhrer.
S.S. General Walter Schellenburg stated bluntly that Himmler(Hitler) founded the S.S. on the model of the Jesuit order.
(A perfect example of this tradition of having no temporal jurisdiction over a member of the Church was the instance, in 1982, of Bishop Marcinkus, the Bishop from Chicago, remaining in sanctuary in an apartment in the bowels of the Vatican, away from the “crippled” arm of the Law, even though the Vatican Bank scandal required his testimony and explanation in a court of law, he safely avoided any participation in the discovery of the crimes of the Vatican in the illegal money transactions of Banco Ambrosiana, and the mysterious death of the previous Pope, thirty three days after his election by the Cardinals in Rome. The previous Pope, Pope John Paul l, was about to expose the whole mess to the light of the world, when he suddenly stopped living. Marcinkus continued to function as head of the Vatican Bank and He declared that the Vatican did not ,and would not accept any responsibility for the 1.3 billion that had disappeared.
The Roman Curia refused to accept judicial papers that the Italian government attempted to serve on Marcinkus and others at the Vatican Bank. "Protocol must be observed at all times," the Curia insisted.
(read "In God's Name" , by Joseph Yallop, for the full story of the assassination of the previous Pope before he could expose the corruption of the Vatican and the Vatican Bank.)
(Oh! by the way when the AntiChrist sets up shoppe soon he will have an apartment in the Vatican encirled by his Roman Centurion Guard and shielded form that same “crippled” arm of the law..neat huh?)
Now back to the Cease Principle that plagues ALL religions..especially Christianity today.opur inherited "religious" traditions are copies of the ancient form of rule..the deeply imbedded desire in the hearts and minds of the riff raff..the mindless “souless", sleeping masses, that of the rule by the single “Kingly” monarch..be he Pope, Pastor, Politician, or “Prophet” like the Mormons have installed..or sometimes the title “reverend” like in Moon an arch monarch if ever there was one.
In sharp contrast you have been given an excellent New (Testament) form of church government with Jesus ONLY as the Head of His TRUE church..His bible based church,,His Divine Church with Elders overseeing each and every “local” church..totally submitted to each other in Love and Brotherhood in a co-equal ie Collegiate form of governing..so that the members of that blessed local church have no problem seeing Jesus Christ hovering lovingly over them..that is what needs to be RESTORED quickly..we are running out of “time”.
Forget the so called “Home Church concept if it fails to restore the Holy Word’s “fail safe” administrative form. The difficulty of course is to find a “band of brothers” that truly love each other and are willing to suspend all “personal” (read Egotistic..read overly ambitious..read carnal) desires for “power” (self aggrandizement), in lieu of the “higher” good, read God Almighty and His manual of instruction..the B I B L E.
Now let us return to the Caesar principle at work today, using the best example I can think of to dramatize this ancinet “disorder” imbedded in our very DNA.
"Hitler possesses the capacities of soul and mind and the distinctive traits of character of Luther, Goethe, Frederick the Great and Bismarck rolled into one, to form a model personality (p.l6l) He is the chosen of God, the champion and Representative of true Christianity. He is in the 20th century the savior of the world standing on the brink of an abyss. If the world, if the peoples have ears to hear Hitler, then there can still be for them salvation and a new future; if not, then they will perish in blood and tears, together with their religions, churches, and civilizations"
So says"German Christian" work National Sozialismus and positive Christendom (p47) Weimer, l937 (British Museum: 3911 dd 36)
(a detailed comparison of Hitler with Jesus.)
At the Nuremberg Nazi Party Rally in September l937, there was a huge photograph of Hitler underneath which was the inscription,
"In the beginning was the Word."
He also says that the Mayor of Hamburg assured him that "We need no priests or persons. We communicate direct with God through Adolf Hitler. He has many Christlike qualities.
(William Teeling "Know the enemy", London, Nicolson, l939".)
Soon these sentiments were introduced by official circles. "We all believe, on this earth in Adolph Hitler, our Fuhrer, and we acknowledge that National Socialism is the only faith that can bring about salvation to our country."
(Herman Rauschning, "The Revolution of Nihilism", p. 2,7,28, Alliance Book Corp. l939),
A Rhenish group of Christians in April of l937 passed this resolution. "Hitler's word is Gods law, the decrees and laws that represent it, posses divine authority".
(Reville Thomas, "The Spoil of Europe").
And Reichminister of Church affairs, Hans Kerrl says "There has arisen a new authority as to what Christ and Christianity really are- that is Adolph Hitler. Adolph Hitler is the Holy Ghost.
(What Hitler wants", Emily Larrimer,
London, Penguin, l939, p.6.)
In l930, Dr. Wienccke of the cathedral at Saldin proclaimed a faith which should combine the Swastika and the cross; the church was to support the National Socialist Movement. It was proposed to found a body of "Evangelical Nationalists". Hitler with his shrewd instincts for names and slogans said "let them be called German Christians, because it is the soul of the people that must be "born again" (DuncanJones, p.63)
They had their Prophets, Saints, and Martyrs. The Fuhrer sanctified his disciples who fell during the beer hall putsch, when he said in dedicating their memorial that their death would bring "a true belief in the resurrection of their people... the blood that they shed becomes the baptismal waters of the 3rd Reich."
(Mueller "Weltanschauung" p345.)
Hitler preached "a pure German people lived in the Garden of Eden. "What Christ began we will complete." "Mixture of races was the original sin"
Quote from Nazi Newspaper "Yesterday witnessed the profession of the religion of the blood in all its imposing reality... whoever has sworn his oath of allegiance to Hitler has pledged himself unto death to his sublime ideas.
(Quoted in J.S.Conway "Nazi persecution of the Churches l93345 New York l968 146-47)
Hitler substituted Nazi high holy days for traditional religious holidays. 30th January - day he came into power "Holy year of our Lord 1933" and April 20, Hitlers birthday youth confirmed in their faith. Holiest day Nov, 9, blood witness.
Mueller "Welt." pg 341.
Particularly prone to Biblical quotations when talking to Hitler youth, Sept. 5, l934 "You are the flesh of my flesh and blood of my blood" l932 he advised them, "to be either hot or cold, but if lukewarm should be spewed from your mouth".
Nazi film "Der Triumph des Willens" (The Triumph of the Will) ed. Reden 61.
On the 16, March 1934, children wrote the following dictation approved by the Ministry of Enlightenment and Propaganda,
Jesus and Hitler, "As Jesus freed men from Sin and Hell, so Hitler frees German people from destruction. Jesus and Hitler were persecuted, but while Jesus was crucified, Hitler was raised to Chancellorship... Jesus strove for Heaven, Hitler for German earth.
German Girls in school wrote;
Adolph Hitler,
you are our great leader,
thy name makes the enemy tremble.
Thy Third Reich comes
thy will alone is law upon earth.
Let us hear daily thy voice and order us by your leadership,
for we will obey to the end even with our lives.
We praise thee "
Heil Hitler.
Fuhrer my Fuhrer, sent to me from God,
protect amid maintain me throughout my life.
Thou who hast saved Germany from deepest need
I thank thee today for my daily bread.
Remain at my side and never leave me.
Fuhrer my Fuhrer,
my faith, my light.
Heil my Fuehrer.
Hans-Jochen Gamm "Der Brune Kult" Hamburg l962 p.213-214.
War added a new dimension of intensity to fuhrer worship. Of course Hitlers voice on the radio boosted morale of the S.S. soldiers at the front more than letters from home. In German towns subject to air attacks, it was widely rumored and believed that when a bomb demolished a house, it spared the wall with a portrait of Hitler on it.
Even when the war was visible and irretrievably lost, Hitlers charisma persisted. In places as far apart as E. Prussia and Bavaria it was rumored that the fuhrer was keeping a mild gas in reserve to put his people out of their misery should the occasion warrant it. Thus, in the Spring of l945 in the minds of many Germans, Hitler still ranked as Lord over Life and Death.
This is not a revolution, it is a revival. They think Hitler is God",
Dorothy Thompson "Goodbye to Germany"
"Yes, said Hitler, National Socialism is a form of conversion, a new faith, but we don't need to raise that issue- it will come of itself. Just as I insist on the mathematical certainty of our coming to power, because might always attracts might.
Christianity will be overcome and the "Deutsche Kirche" (German Church) established. Yes the German Church without a Pope and without a Bible- and Luther if he could be with us would give us his blessing.,
"Hitler was ablaze now and I could see the ideas of Rosenburg's Mythus working in him. He shouted with passionate energy, 'Of course I myself, I am a heathen to the core."
No, Ludecke, we don't need to declare this fight openly. It would be political stupidity to show the masses too many enemies all at once.
"I knew Hitler" Kurt G.W.
Ludecke, London, Jarrolds, l938, p.465-8.
Listen little christian, the single issue strategy that Hitler used to manipulate the Christians in Germany, is still being used on you. in your totally naive, somnambulistic, demon strations in the "right to life" movement, and other frenzied postures and poses you are striking on the streets of America You are being manipulated by a tried and true strategy developed by Hitler himself. Wake Up! before it's too late. The rebuilding of Babylon in Iraq, is almost completed and is a fulfillment of Bible Prophecy as a warning and signal to the church in the last days. The carpenters and brick masons are practically finished and then the trap will be sprung. The Antichrist will step forward to amaze the world. Totally!
And you will be members of the Church of Babylon, Officially!!!
Again, Hitler speaks..
The political victory can only follow if the fight is concentrated against the fewest possible number of enemies- for the time being, the Marxists, Jews, and Freemasons, (does that sound familiar christian?, the Christian Right has been bellowing that one a lot lately) then will come the turn of the Reaktion, and the end of that will mean the end of the Christian Church- and the opening of our temple, our own shrines. The French Revolution, Bolshevism, all of Marxism, in fact our whole deformity and atrophy of spirit and soul would never have come into being except for this abominable leveling mania, this cursed universalism of Christianity, which denies racialism, and preaches suicidal tolerance.
Adolf Hitler
Interesting!, Christian, that was some trick he pulled off in Germany many years ago, but they were foreigners living on foreign soil, a long way off, and unwaashed in their version of Christianity, sort of foreign and unenlightened. And we have the shining shield of the American ideals to protect us from those kinds of mistakes or deceptions. That would never happen here. We are more sophisticated in our approach to Christianity. We would see right through a politician that spoke like that. Not to worry, be happy, Praise the Lord!, even. We.re the greatest, freest, most tolerant, unracist, nation in the world.
We still welcome all races into our harbors and ports (whoops)
We solved all questions of racial distinctions (whoops)
We tolerate all other governmental forms (whoops)
We have justice and literacy for all (whoops)
We take care of unwed mothers (whoops)
The handicapped (Whoops)
The aged (Whoops)
Whoops factor!
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The Christian Right has corrected the "tolerance problem"
( in behalf of Hitlers agenda), homosexuals, Freemasons, abortion clinics, Commies, Sandinistas, “illegal immigrants”, swarth looking Middle Eastern types, have all been targeted, liberals are included on the mean spirited list of undesirables that the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells, cloned by the hundreds of thousands, have concocted, as their evil potion to poison the clean clear waters of Christ, the fountain of life.
In order to study the reaction of the church to the rise of fascism and Nazism we need to do a little homework. The following is a brief sampling of some of the published statements of the main line churches in the United states in response to the rise of Hitler during the thirties in Nazi Germany.
Catholic "America" editors asserted an "alliance among international Jewry, communism, and international freemasonry, Catholic unholy Trinity.
"Lutheran Witness", "God wanted to teach something to the Jews." etc.
E.O. Donant asserted in "Christendom" that Nazi Germany was involved in a search for purpose through which man might oppose the hunger of a soul starved by the agnostic empiricisms of "secular humanism." ("secular humanism", where did I hear that whipping boy before, could it be from the christian right?)
Nazism claimed total loyalty and in return, restored a sense of social solidarity. Human beings could thus gain a conviction that they were conscious agents of the wave of the future.
E.O.Denant, "Can Christianity Be Applied?" Christendom.
Christian Advocate and Lutheran Witness were at some pains to point out, Hitler was morally clean. He was ascetic in his personal habits. He loved nature, delighted in long walks in the woods, furthermore, Hitler was a bit of a mystic, and he was perfectly sincere.
John Nuelson "Religion and theChurch in Hitler's Germany", (N.Y.) Advocate 11/17/38, p.164
It is all very well and good for people to complain when they are roused from their sleep and compelled to rush outside into the street and find their private possessions scattered about the yard, but let them remember that after all, their lives were saved by this troublesome one who wakened, smelled the smoke, gave the alarm, and freed them from danger and death. This fireman may or may not make a good policeman, he will have much trouble trying to be a bishop. But He is a good fireman.
The Presbyterian stated in l933: 10 26 33 p.9.
Dr. Conrad Hoffman Jr., a member of the Presbyterian Missions, after a summer in Germany in l938, said, one of the most sobering things about Anti-Semitism there was that Christianity was everywhere involved.
The "Protocols of Zion" extraordinarily successful in promoting anti-semitism. Sergei Alexandrovich Nilus published supposed minutes of First Zionist Congress held in Basel l897. Translated into l6 languages. Bishop of Warsaw endorsed it. London Times was tempted to believe it? "What are Protocols, are they authentic? One year later Times published proof of their forged creation.
Henry Ford published 3 million copies. "International Jew, the Worlds foremost problem". Sold or given away as a public service to schools and colleges and municipal libraries.
(Norman Cohn "Warrent for Genocide, The Myths of the Jewish World Conspiracy and Protocols of Elders of Zion. London l967)
So from all the churches in the land that boast "We are a Bible Believing, Bible Based, Body of Believers, but who in fact are still operating under the "Caesar Principle", of the personality cult of a one man band, or the strong leader syndrome, run for your lives ,or as the Bible says, "come out from among them."(Babylon) It is far better for your spiritual health that you stay at home with your Bible and pray the Holy Spirit teaches you, since that is what the Word says anyway, "the Holy Spirit is your teacher" and "the Spirit will guide you into all truth".
So Hitler "disappeared" from the world stage before he fully succeeded in his mission to convert the world over to his beliefs. The problem is, he left his blueprints and plans, architects and brick masons, behind for anyone who wants to learn how to control the hearts and minds of mankind. They have a ready made seminar to present with ready made audiences to flock to and pay for. Human nature has not changed one iota. The true conversion that can take place in the hearts and minds of the True Christian for some reason, is not prevailing in the disjointed Body of Christ. As fast as Christians "get saved," they are hustled, rustled, minted, and imprinted into master molds of one denomination or another, like fives, tens, and twenties coming off the press of the U.S. Treasury, where they are made into the bricks of Babylon, or left behind scattered and bewildered by the whirlwind tour they had of the city being built by the brick masons of the fourth Reich in the American churches today.
It is naive to think that by removing the "madman", the world would return to its normal peaceful state of affairs. His "madness” was the madness of a nation, a continent, perhaps the world. It is the result of a reciprocal relationship existing between the Fuhrer (Caesar) and his people. Madness of one stimulates and flows into the other. The longing for the strong, dominating, chromatic man to rule over them, is too strong to eliminate by eliminating the tyrants and wolves in sheep's clothing. The emotional plague (see..read..Wilhelm Reich), is still playing out deep psychological needs that man does not fully comprehend within himself. The dynamics and complexities of humans' nature are so intricate we need a Swiss watch maker to identify every impulse that requires identification with the King, or "strong man" to satisfy. The human EGO (Easing God Out) is far too committed to the desires and needs of our carnal and materialistic urges to suddenly transfer our spirit to the face of our creator upon our conversion. That's why God built so many bonfires for our vanities under the sun, with so many bulls and rams thrown upon the grates and irons to be burnt as a holocaust and offering to Him, to dramatize the need for a great burning off of the flesh to get down to the bones of our Spirit.
God is a consuming fire. The Good News is that Christ is that Fire, He radiate Himself in His power and glory "through" the sun, and he is that King sent to satisfy the deep longing in man's breast, to unite man with the Ruler of heaven and earth once and for all.
An "emotional plague" can sweep through a herd of people no matter what their beliefs are, The Salem (Satan) witch trials are a rude reminder of the plague passing through people tied together by sheepthink, the Inquisition is another example. Every cult, every sect, every denomination, even every nation can fall victim to the plague transmitted by every ones desire to conform to the strong leader combined with the fear of being different, being an outsider or non-coformist and branded as "unpopular". .
so that is my rant for today..
or...
"What goes around comes around"
reexamining the F word...
Fascism is almost a non word in our political discourse today.even though it is rampant throughout the world and is active in every country of this war weary planet. Fascism needs to be discussed (again, like in the thirties and forties) because it has simply taken on a new more sleek and acceptable form. It is now in the board rooms, the media, the entertainment industry, the trinkets we buy at our malls, and in the politicians wallets since most politicians rely heavily, (almost exclusively), on their corporate sponsors in order to run their expensive campaigns. In other words it is now a "way of life" for the entire population.
The F word is old fashioned and archaic some say, and is not very useful anymore to define the power structure we face every day..
well maybe, but in the meantime..here is what I say..
Until the creation of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and the Constitution, the political/religious authority was bound up in the King (Caesar principle, I shall call it), ) tradition. It thrived in and dominated the Western world throughout most of our history. Now, in theory, we no longer have a King, but in fact, the office of President, with the cooperation of the Congress and the blind Judicial system, has gradually eroded the "New Order of the Ages" (established by the Brotherhood,) until today the President governs by "fiat" again. (Harry S Truman spooks the government and establishes the National Security Agency and the CIA in an end run around the snoozing populace and Congress, ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz, sound asleep in their belief that Fascism and Hitler were dead.) (NOT) Executive, National Security Memos, now can commit the sleeping citizenry to wars and global "racist" policies, as was done in our ten year national anguish called Viet Nam, as we poured innocent blood over the steaming jungle villages of Southeast Asia, in a psychedelic and frenzied Apocalypse, then and now. Today, as if the citizens have been “all doped up” it happened all over again in biblical Iraq, as the Christian church snores from shyore to shore.
The powers that took charge of the United States government after World War Two, (the last Righteous ala Augestine real world war,) created a "smoke and mirrors" shift in our attention, like the magician that has you looking "over there" while he tricks you with his other hand where you are not looking. "The shift" was to focus all our attention on the "threat" of Communism and Socialism, so we would forget the "continuing, imminent " threat” of Fascism that went underground until the "heat was off". Many, “doctors, scientists, assassination specialists, mind control experts, and “loyalists” of the Nazi elite, were secretly and "illegally" brought into the United States and given new positions of power and authority within the bureaucracy of the secret "unelected" government, hidden behind the closed closet doors of the National Security State and its satellite agencies all over the world.. (More on this later),. Governments come and go, administrations as well, but the agendas of the NSA (National Security Agency), CIA, National Security Council,and other less public agencies hidden within the Federal Government ,behind Black Budgets, secret and invisible from the prying eyes of you and “eye”, continue, undetected, and free to perform their own unconstitutional agendas.
According to the Declaration of Independence, it is incumbent on the citizenry to closely monitor the actions of their leaders or risk the loss of their Liberties, de facto. With the establishment of the "National Security State, the "secret" state within the state, the Constitution was secretly shredded, raped, and violated, and a coup d' etat occurred. The United States is really being governed by an unelected unprincipled, covert and secret bureaucracy, floating above the huffing and puffing heads of our "duly elected" (sound of canned laughter, read, bought and paid for by the corporate elite) Congressional, Executive, and the Judicial bodies, like dark Avenging Angels.
We the People... are cut off from the decision making process entirely. If "they" want a war in Viet Nam, and the President does not cooperate, they assassinate him and install their "hand crafted in Texas", puppet to "Face the Nation" and take the political heat. The Multi- National Corporations One World economic system is guarded and advanced by the National Security State, and whoever gets in their way, be he President, Politician, or John Q. Public, is soon eliminated, disgraced, or bought out.
There is a cost incurred when you shop for freedom.
THE PRICE OF LIBERTY IS ETERNAL VIGILANCE.
Senator Joseph R. McCarthy, with the cooperation of all the major media whores, (talk about a conspiracy), grabbed the attention of the American people, in a choke hold with one hand, while through the backdoor, the Nazis that "The Keepers" chose to spawn new schools of piranhas in our bloodstream, were waved in with the other hand, (without their green cards), into the inner sanctum of the government bureaucracy, to occupy their new desks and reestablish their agendas all over the world , to prepare for the sequel to the Third Reich, the Fourth.
Joseph R.McCarthy, as a Freshman U.S. Senator from Wisconsin, argued on behalf of Nazi War Criminals, that had been sentenced to death or long prison sentences, for their crimes, including the massacre of unarmed, U.S. Army prisoners of war, in the town of Malmedy in Belgium, during the last major confrontation with the Nazis at The Battle of the Bulge. After a brief period of Congressional "hard of hearings" and the trumpeting of the Press, McCarthy, and the beastly brain trust languishing in their unholy inner sanctum deep in the bowels of the U.S., Governments' bureaucrazy, eventually succeeded in having them all released, and their sentences commuted. None of them were executed or none even served out there sentences for their crimes, thanks to Joseph McCarthy, the darling of the Right, and the United States Press,in concert with the Congressional leaders (looters) at that time and the silent, snoring, sound asleep, church.
The bulk of the rest of the Nazi "management team", had scattered to their "predesignated" sanctuaries all over the world. Sanctuaries in Spain, Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, Bolivia, as well as the United States, had been quietly created by Hitler for his strategic retreat and safe Exodus of most of his demonic Vempire, in the slickest con job in the history of planet earth. The Vatican assisted the Con, by secretly and quickly dressing the principal Nazi Warlords in their appropriately black, priestly (or beastly) garments from the wardrobe closets in Rome, to enable the entire ensemble to pass unnoticed from the stage of the Second War For The World, to start rehearsals for the next song and dance extravaganza; "The Destruction of Godless Communism by the Neo-Fascist West, Cha Cha Cha." Starring Caesar in his centuries-old role as warrior against socialism and the sharing of the means of production with the people that actually produce it.
Let's study for a moment Hitler's strategy used to gradually indoctrinate and "program" or "brainwash" the entire nation of Germany (and much of the rest of the world including Amkerica before hostilities reached the firestorm we call World War Two, to accept him as the Father of the Motherland. Just a quick look at the recent past to make sure we won't repeat it, because, "those that neglect to study the past are doomed to repeat it", Okay? And besides, Doom has such a final ring to it.
At this point I shall defer to the expert on Fascism and political leadership in the application of the Caesar Principle, none other then the man himself, the incomparable Mr. Fascism, Adolf Hitler. (sound of thunderous roaring and hysterical applause)
I will show you how he hoodwinked the whole nation of Germany, the "Christian churches..there and here.. and nearly hoodwinked the entire world, and continues to hoodwink us to this day. His Agenda is still operating,with or without his directions, because it is so successful and it is the agenda of Babylon the Great, the whore that has for centuries grown fat and strong in her riches and splendor, by her persistent use of the Caesar Principle.
In driving out the Jews I remind myself of Jesus in the Temple. "Just like Christ I have a duty to my own people."
Adolph Hitler
Hitler was always the guiding spirit in Nazi propaganda and usually plans the broad lines that are to be followed He developed the concept of a "mythical" personality. As soon as he came to power new weapons for self aggrandizement were put into the hands of the propagandists and they made good use of them. Unemployment dropped off sharply, roads and hghways that Germans never dreamed of sprang up overnight. New and imposing buildings were erected with astounding rapidity. The face of Germany was being altered at incredible speed. Hitler was keeping his promises he was accomplishing the impossible. Every success in diplomacy, every social reform was heralded as world shaking in its importance. And for each success Hitler modestly accepted the credit. It was always Hitler that did this, and Hitler that did that, provided the acts were spectacular and met with the approval of the people. If they happened to meet with disapproval, it was always one of his assistants that was to blame. Every effort was made to cultivate the attitude that Hitler was infallible and was carrying through his mission to serve Germany.
It was not long before the people were prepared to take the short step of seeing Hitler not as a man but as the Messiah of Germany. Public meetings, and particularly the Nuremberg rally, took on a religious atmosphere. All the stagings were designed to create a Supernatural and religious atmosphere, and Hitler's entry was more befitting a god than a man. In Berlin one of the large Art galleries, Unter der Linden, exhibited a large portrait of Hitler in the center of their display window. Hitler's portrait was entirely surrounded as though by a halo, with various copies of a painting of Christ. Notes appeared in the press to the effect that "as He spoke, one heard Gods mantle rustle through the room". Zimmer reports that on the side of a hill board in Odenwold, conspicuous as a waterfall, painted on white crosses were the bold words
We believe in Holy Germany.
Holy Germany is Hitler.
We believe in Holy Hitler.
(Patsy Zimmer "2019 days of Hitler", Harper Brothers l940 p.84)
Quote from Hitler "The psyche of the broad masses does not respond to anything weak or halfway. Like a woman whose spiritual sensitiveness is determined less by abstract reason then by indefinable emotional longing for fulfilling power, and who for that reason, prefers to submit to the strong leader rather than the weakling- the masses, too, prefer a ruler or strong leader to a pleader.
( the visable badge of feminine unworthiness was disbarment from the political kingdom. One of the earliest Nazi ordinances of Jan. 1921, excluded women forever from holding leading positions in the Nazi party. Anti-Feminism served as a non-lethal variant of anti-Semitism. Just as the latter fused divergent resentments into a single hate syndrome, anti-feminism provided men with a opportunity for abstracting a whole complex of feelings; pater familias, authoritarianism and permissiveness, on the grounds that they (women) cannot think logically or reason objectively since they are governed only by emotion.)
Heinz Holne, in his studious history of Hitlers S.S. says, "the similarities between the S.S. and the "Society of Jesus"(Jesuits) is astounding. Each was an Order conferring enormous privileges om its members, subject to no temporal jurisdiction, protected by the strictest conditions of entry and held together by an oath of absolute obedience to it's Lord and master- Pope or Fuhrer.
S.S. General Walter Schellenburg stated bluntly that Himmler(Hitler) founded the S.S. on the model of the Jesuit order.
(A perfect example of this tradition of having no temporal jurisdiction over a member of the Church was the instance, in 1982, of Bishop Marcinkus, the Bishop from Chicago, remaining in sanctuary in an apartment in the bowels of the Vatican, away from the “crippled” arm of the Law, even though the Vatican Bank scandal required his testimony and explanation in a court of law, he safely avoided any participation in the discovery of the crimes of the Vatican in the illegal money transactions of Banco Ambrosiana, and the mysterious death of the previous Pope, thirty three days after his election by the Cardinals in Rome. The previous Pope, Pope John Paul l, was about to expose the whole mess to the light of the world, when he suddenly stopped living. Marcinkus continued to function as head of the Vatican Bank and He declared that the Vatican did not ,and would not accept any responsibility for the 1.3 billion that had disappeared.
The Roman Curia refused to accept judicial papers that the Italian government attempted to serve on Marcinkus and others at the Vatican Bank. "Protocol must be observed at all times," the Curia insisted.
(read "In God's Name" , by Joseph Yallop, for the full story of the assassination of the previous Pope before he could expose the corruption of the Vatican and the Vatican Bank.)
(Oh! by the way when the AntiChrist sets up shoppe soon he will have an apartment in the Vatican encirled by his Roman Centurion Guard and shielded form that same “crippled” arm of the law..neat huh?)
Now back to the Cease Principle that plagues ALL religions..especially Christianity today.opur inherited "religious" traditions are copies of the ancient form of rule..the deeply imbedded desire in the hearts and minds of the riff raff..the mindless “souless", sleeping masses, that of the rule by the single “Kingly” monarch..be he Pope, Pastor, Politician, or “Prophet” like the Mormons have installed..or sometimes the title “reverend” like in Moon an arch monarch if ever there was one.
In sharp contrast you have been given an excellent New (Testament) form of church government with Jesus ONLY as the Head of His TRUE church..His bible based church,,His Divine Church with Elders overseeing each and every “local” church..totally submitted to each other in Love and Brotherhood in a co-equal ie Collegiate form of governing..so that the members of that blessed local church have no problem seeing Jesus Christ hovering lovingly over them..that is what needs to be RESTORED quickly..we are running out of “time”.
Forget the so called “Home Church concept if it fails to restore the Holy Word’s “fail safe” administrative form. The difficulty of course is to find a “band of brothers” that truly love each other and are willing to suspend all “personal” (read Egotistic..read overly ambitious..read carnal) desires for “power” (self aggrandizement), in lieu of the “higher” good, read God Almighty and His manual of instruction..the B I B L E.
Now let us return to the Caesar principle at work today, using the best example I can think of to dramatize this ancinet “disorder” imbedded in our very DNA.
"Hitler possesses the capacities of soul and mind and the distinctive traits of character of Luther, Goethe, Frederick the Great and Bismarck rolled into one, to form a model personality (p.l6l) He is the chosen of God, the champion and Representative of true Christianity. He is in the 20th century the savior of the world standing on the brink of an abyss. If the world, if the peoples have ears to hear Hitler, then there can still be for them salvation and a new future; if not, then they will perish in blood and tears, together with their religions, churches, and civilizations"
So says"German Christian" work National Sozialismus and positive Christendom (p47) Weimer, l937 (British Museum: 3911 dd 36)
(a detailed comparison of Hitler with Jesus.)
At the Nuremberg Nazi Party Rally in September l937, there was a huge photograph of Hitler underneath which was the inscription,
"In the beginning was the Word."
He also says that the Mayor of Hamburg assured him that "We need no priests or persons. We communicate direct with God through Adolf Hitler. He has many Christlike qualities.
(William Teeling "Know the enemy", London, Nicolson, l939".)
Soon these sentiments were introduced by official circles. "We all believe, on this earth in Adolph Hitler, our Fuhrer, and we acknowledge that National Socialism is the only faith that can bring about salvation to our country."
(Herman Rauschning, "The Revolution of Nihilism", p. 2,7,28, Alliance Book Corp. l939),
A Rhenish group of Christians in April of l937 passed this resolution. "Hitler's word is Gods law, the decrees and laws that represent it, posses divine authority".
(Reville Thomas, "The Spoil of Europe").
And Reichminister of Church affairs, Hans Kerrl says "There has arisen a new authority as to what Christ and Christianity really are- that is Adolph Hitler. Adolph Hitler is the Holy Ghost.
(What Hitler wants", Emily Larrimer,
London, Penguin, l939, p.6.)
In l930, Dr. Wienccke of the cathedral at Saldin proclaimed a faith which should combine the Swastika and the cross; the church was to support the National Socialist Movement. It was proposed to found a body of "Evangelical Nationalists". Hitler with his shrewd instincts for names and slogans said "let them be called German Christians, because it is the soul of the people that must be "born again" (DuncanJones, p.63)
They had their Prophets, Saints, and Martyrs. The Fuhrer sanctified his disciples who fell during the beer hall putsch, when he said in dedicating their memorial that their death would bring "a true belief in the resurrection of their people... the blood that they shed becomes the baptismal waters of the 3rd Reich."
(Mueller "Weltanschauung" p345.)
Hitler preached "a pure German people lived in the Garden of Eden. "What Christ began we will complete." "Mixture of races was the original sin"
Quote from Nazi Newspaper "Yesterday witnessed the profession of the religion of the blood in all its imposing reality... whoever has sworn his oath of allegiance to Hitler has pledged himself unto death to his sublime ideas.
(Quoted in J.S.Conway "Nazi persecution of the Churches l93345 New York l968 146-47)
Hitler substituted Nazi high holy days for traditional religious holidays. 30th January - day he came into power "Holy year of our Lord 1933" and April 20, Hitlers birthday youth confirmed in their faith. Holiest day Nov, 9, blood witness.
Mueller "Welt." pg 341.
Particularly prone to Biblical quotations when talking to Hitler youth, Sept. 5, l934 "You are the flesh of my flesh and blood of my blood" l932 he advised them, "to be either hot or cold, but if lukewarm should be spewed from your mouth".
Nazi film "Der Triumph des Willens" (The Triumph of the Will) ed. Reden 61.
On the 16, March 1934, children wrote the following dictation approved by the Ministry of Enlightenment and Propaganda,
Jesus and Hitler, "As Jesus freed men from Sin and Hell, so Hitler frees German people from destruction. Jesus and Hitler were persecuted, but while Jesus was crucified, Hitler was raised to Chancellorship... Jesus strove for Heaven, Hitler for German earth.
German Girls in school wrote;
Adolph Hitler,
you are our great leader,
thy name makes the enemy tremble.
Thy Third Reich comes
thy will alone is law upon earth.
Let us hear daily thy voice and order us by your leadership,
for we will obey to the end even with our lives.
We praise thee "
Heil Hitler.
Fuhrer my Fuhrer, sent to me from God,
protect amid maintain me throughout my life.
Thou who hast saved Germany from deepest need
I thank thee today for my daily bread.
Remain at my side and never leave me.
Fuhrer my Fuhrer,
my faith, my light.
Heil my Fuehrer.
Hans-Jochen Gamm "Der Brune Kult" Hamburg l962 p.213-214.
War added a new dimension of intensity to fuhrer worship. Of course Hitlers voice on the radio boosted morale of the S.S. soldiers at the front more than letters from home. In German towns subject to air attacks, it was widely rumored and believed that when a bomb demolished a house, it spared the wall with a portrait of Hitler on it.
Even when the war was visible and irretrievably lost, Hitlers charisma persisted. In places as far apart as E. Prussia and Bavaria it was rumored that the fuhrer was keeping a mild gas in reserve to put his people out of their misery should the occasion warrant it. Thus, in the Spring of l945 in the minds of many Germans, Hitler still ranked as Lord over Life and Death.
This is not a revolution, it is a revival. They think Hitler is God",
Dorothy Thompson "Goodbye to Germany"
"Yes, said Hitler, National Socialism is a form of conversion, a new faith, but we don't need to raise that issue- it will come of itself. Just as I insist on the mathematical certainty of our coming to power, because might always attracts might.
Christianity will be overcome and the "Deutsche Kirche" (German Church) established. Yes the German Church without a Pope and without a Bible- and Luther if he could be with us would give us his blessing.,
"Hitler was ablaze now and I could see the ideas of Rosenburg's Mythus working in him. He shouted with passionate energy, 'Of course I myself, I am a heathen to the core."
No, Ludecke, we don't need to declare this fight openly. It would be political stupidity to show the masses too many enemies all at once.
"I knew Hitler" Kurt G.W.
Ludecke, London, Jarrolds, l938, p.465-8.
Listen little christian, the single issue strategy that Hitler used to manipulate the Christians in Germany, is still being used on you. in your totally naive, somnambulistic, demon strations in the "right to life" movement, and other frenzied postures and poses you are striking on the streets of America You are being manipulated by a tried and true strategy developed by Hitler himself. Wake Up! before it's too late. The rebuilding of Babylon in Iraq, is almost completed and is a fulfillment of Bible Prophecy as a warning and signal to the church in the last days. The carpenters and brick masons are practically finished and then the trap will be sprung. The Antichrist will step forward to amaze the world. Totally!
And you will be members of the Church of Babylon, Officially!!!
Again, Hitler speaks..
The political victory can only follow if the fight is concentrated against the fewest possible number of enemies- for the time being, the Marxists, Jews, and Freemasons, (does that sound familiar christian?, the Christian Right has been bellowing that one a lot lately) then will come the turn of the Reaktion, and the end of that will mean the end of the Christian Church- and the opening of our temple, our own shrines. The French Revolution, Bolshevism, all of Marxism, in fact our whole deformity and atrophy of spirit and soul would never have come into being except for this abominable leveling mania, this cursed universalism of Christianity, which denies racialism, and preaches suicidal tolerance.
Adolf Hitler
Interesting!, Christian, that was some trick he pulled off in Germany many years ago, but they were foreigners living on foreign soil, a long way off, and unwaashed in their version of Christianity, sort of foreign and unenlightened. And we have the shining shield of the American ideals to protect us from those kinds of mistakes or deceptions. That would never happen here. We are more sophisticated in our approach to Christianity. We would see right through a politician that spoke like that. Not to worry, be happy, Praise the Lord!, even. We.re the greatest, freest, most tolerant, unracist, nation in the world.
We still welcome all races into our harbors and ports (whoops)
We solved all questions of racial distinctions (whoops)
We tolerate all other governmental forms (whoops)
We have justice and literacy for all (whoops)
We take care of unwed mothers (whoops)
The handicapped (Whoops)
The aged (Whoops)
Whoops factor!
rides again
and again
again
and
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The Christian Right has corrected the "tolerance problem"
( in behalf of Hitlers agenda), homosexuals, Freemasons, abortion clinics, Commies, Sandinistas, “illegal immigrants”, swarth looking Middle Eastern types, have all been targeted, liberals are included on the mean spirited list of undesirables that the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells, cloned by the hundreds of thousands, have concocted, as their evil potion to poison the clean clear waters of Christ, the fountain of life.
In order to study the reaction of the church to the rise of fascism and Nazism we need to do a little homework. The following is a brief sampling of some of the published statements of the main line churches in the United states in response to the rise of Hitler during the thirties in Nazi Germany.
Catholic "America" editors asserted an "alliance among international Jewry, communism, and international freemasonry, Catholic unholy Trinity.
"Lutheran Witness", "God wanted to teach something to the Jews." etc.
E.O. Donant asserted in "Christendom" that Nazi Germany was involved in a search for purpose through which man might oppose the hunger of a soul starved by the agnostic empiricisms of "secular humanism." ("secular humanism", where did I hear that whipping boy before, could it be from the christian right?)
Nazism claimed total loyalty and in return, restored a sense of social solidarity. Human beings could thus gain a conviction that they were conscious agents of the wave of the future.
E.O.Denant, "Can Christianity Be Applied?" Christendom.
Christian Advocate and Lutheran Witness were at some pains to point out, Hitler was morally clean. He was ascetic in his personal habits. He loved nature, delighted in long walks in the woods, furthermore, Hitler was a bit of a mystic, and he was perfectly sincere.
John Nuelson "Religion and theChurch in Hitler's Germany", (N.Y.) Advocate 11/17/38, p.164
It is all very well and good for people to complain when they are roused from their sleep and compelled to rush outside into the street and find their private possessions scattered about the yard, but let them remember that after all, their lives were saved by this troublesome one who wakened, smelled the smoke, gave the alarm, and freed them from danger and death. This fireman may or may not make a good policeman, he will have much trouble trying to be a bishop. But He is a good fireman.
The Presbyterian stated in l933: 10 26 33 p.9.
Dr. Conrad Hoffman Jr., a member of the Presbyterian Missions, after a summer in Germany in l938, said, one of the most sobering things about Anti-Semitism there was that Christianity was everywhere involved.
The "Protocols of Zion" extraordinarily successful in promoting anti-semitism. Sergei Alexandrovich Nilus published supposed minutes of First Zionist Congress held in Basel l897. Translated into l6 languages. Bishop of Warsaw endorsed it. London Times was tempted to believe it? "What are Protocols, are they authentic? One year later Times published proof of their forged creation.
Henry Ford published 3 million copies. "International Jew, the Worlds foremost problem". Sold or given away as a public service to schools and colleges and municipal libraries.
(Norman Cohn "Warrent for Genocide, The Myths of the Jewish World Conspiracy and Protocols of Elders of Zion. London l967)
So from all the churches in the land that boast "We are a Bible Believing, Bible Based, Body of Believers, but who in fact are still operating under the "Caesar Principle", of the personality cult of a one man band, or the strong leader syndrome, run for your lives ,or as the Bible says, "come out from among them."(Babylon) It is far better for your spiritual health that you stay at home with your Bible and pray the Holy Spirit teaches you, since that is what the Word says anyway, "the Holy Spirit is your teacher" and "the Spirit will guide you into all truth".
So Hitler "disappeared" from the world stage before he fully succeeded in his mission to convert the world over to his beliefs. The problem is, he left his blueprints and plans, architects and brick masons, behind for anyone who wants to learn how to control the hearts and minds of mankind. They have a ready made seminar to present with ready made audiences to flock to and pay for. Human nature has not changed one iota. The true conversion that can take place in the hearts and minds of the True Christian for some reason, is not prevailing in the disjointed Body of Christ. As fast as Christians "get saved," they are hustled, rustled, minted, and imprinted into master molds of one denomination or another, like fives, tens, and twenties coming off the press of the U.S. Treasury, where they are made into the bricks of Babylon, or left behind scattered and bewildered by the whirlwind tour they had of the city being built by the brick masons of the fourth Reich in the American churches today.
It is naive to think that by removing the "madman", the world would return to its normal peaceful state of affairs. His "madness” was the madness of a nation, a continent, perhaps the world. It is the result of a reciprocal relationship existing between the Fuhrer (Caesar) and his people. Madness of one stimulates and flows into the other. The longing for the strong, dominating, chromatic man to rule over them, is too strong to eliminate by eliminating the tyrants and wolves in sheep's clothing. The emotional plague (see..read..Wilhelm Reich), is still playing out deep psychological needs that man does not fully comprehend within himself. The dynamics and complexities of humans' nature are so intricate we need a Swiss watch maker to identify every impulse that requires identification with the King, or "strong man" to satisfy. The human EGO (Easing God Out) is far too committed to the desires and needs of our carnal and materialistic urges to suddenly transfer our spirit to the face of our creator upon our conversion. That's why God built so many bonfires for our vanities under the sun, with so many bulls and rams thrown upon the grates and irons to be burnt as a holocaust and offering to Him, to dramatize the need for a great burning off of the flesh to get down to the bones of our Spirit.
God is a consuming fire. The Good News is that Christ is that Fire, He radiate Himself in His power and glory "through" the sun, and he is that King sent to satisfy the deep longing in man's breast, to unite man with the Ruler of heaven and earth once and for all.
An "emotional plague" can sweep through a herd of people no matter what their beliefs are, The Salem (Satan) witch trials are a rude reminder of the plague passing through people tied together by sheepthink, the Inquisition is another example. Every cult, every sect, every denomination, even every nation can fall victim to the plague transmitted by every ones desire to conform to the strong leader combined with the fear of being different, being an outsider or non-coformist and branded as "unpopular". .
so that is my rant for today..
Monday, May 17, 2010
deconstructing Frank Viola.. George Barma..."Pagan Christianity"
Here are a couple very positive reviews of the book "Pagan Christianity" that create the impression that what we call church today is in large measure "adopted pagan forms" and need to be jettisoned..then what?
Keep in mind that Jesus as Christ supersedes all religious forms..past..present and future. He absorbed and is now Lord over All including what is known as "Paganism" in the form of what is known as "Gnosticism", (the previous mystery religions of Greece, the Middle East and the religions of the far East), He absorbed Judaism in His person, and every other existent religion of this world, because He died and conquered death for the sins of the entire world ..and now He is going to supersede what we call Christianity in its many many rigid, dogmatic, forms that All fall short of His Bride that mystery woman clothed in the sun... so listen up! Hear the call for the wedding supper of the Lamb...it is currently being announced to all with ears to hear and eyes to see.
We will have books of all stripes in an effort to "reform" the existing church model that in large measure has been so "politicized", that it has so blurred the line between the politics of the modern Pharisees, and extreme political agendas by the "neo" fascists that are busy tearing away all semblances of our Constitutional rights and freedoms. The widening chasm between the modern church and the person and teachings of Jesus Himself is a result of the old almost medieval attitudes and teachings in churches today, as they evolve (hijacked) into little more than a political action arm of the extremists with their narrow social agendas and inquisitions to follow.
This tinkering and reshaping the old tired inaccurate and unbiblical paradigms of the church we inherited from our elders, will continue until we arrive at the final "divine" form of that mysterious woman clothed in the sun..standing on the moon described in Rvelations 12.
Until we figure her out we are still tinkering with the old wine skins..the myriad of old forms..reform..reform..and reforming yet again, but that is not the form that "She represents,is it? Remember, there is a whore from Babylon to show the door first, once we recognize her and give her a chance to repent!.
Awesome image by Sean Mayfield
here are a few reviews that applaud the book that is trying t "btrak the old mold that has prevailed for the last 1,700 years.
"PAGAN CHRISTIANITY contains a wide variety of interesting and helpful historical information of which most Christians - or non-Christians - will be completely unaware. The book identifies - in part or in whole - the pagan roots of many of our current church practices, as well as indicates some borrowed from earlier Jewish or, occasionally, more recent Customs."
Robert Banks, New Testament scholar, author of "Paul's Idea of Community" and "The Church Comes Home."
"This feisty book attacks the incipient paganism that has been absorbed into historic Christianity over the years. It exposes the syncretistic weak spots in what we assume to be basic in our way of doing church. Thoroughly iconoclastic, it is also at the same time a good apologetic for the house church movement which has strong restorationist impulses. My guess is that it will anger some readers and thrill others. I am one of the latter. Whatever, it won't be too easy to dismiss as it is really well researched and substantiated. I think it is definitely worth the read even if I do think it is a tad purist in tone. Just don't drop it-it is likely to explode."
Alan Hirsch, author of "The Forgotten Ways" and "The Shaping of Things to Come."
and here are some interesting insights that may dispel the excitement of this the latest form that people will experiment with.
Viola, Barna, and the Church 3: Domus Ecclesiae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0bRFJijk1w
Viola, Barna, and the Church 4: Constantine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2lwmp6RFOc
Viola, Barna, and the Church 5: Basilicas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8zHYI2xnYs
Viola, Barna, and the Church 6: Gothic Cathedrals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSTt7vkHCIE
Keep in mind that Jesus as Christ supersedes all religious forms..past..present and future. He absorbed and is now Lord over All including what is known as "Paganism" in the form of what is known as "Gnosticism", (the previous mystery religions of Greece, the Middle East and the religions of the far East), He absorbed Judaism in His person, and every other existent religion of this world, because He died and conquered death for the sins of the entire world ..and now He is going to supersede what we call Christianity in its many many rigid, dogmatic, forms that All fall short of His Bride that mystery woman clothed in the sun... so listen up! Hear the call for the wedding supper of the Lamb...it is currently being announced to all with ears to hear and eyes to see.
We will have books of all stripes in an effort to "reform" the existing church model that in large measure has been so "politicized", that it has so blurred the line between the politics of the modern Pharisees, and extreme political agendas by the "neo" fascists that are busy tearing away all semblances of our Constitutional rights and freedoms. The widening chasm between the modern church and the person and teachings of Jesus Himself is a result of the old almost medieval attitudes and teachings in churches today, as they evolve (hijacked) into little more than a political action arm of the extremists with their narrow social agendas and inquisitions to follow.
This tinkering and reshaping the old tired inaccurate and unbiblical paradigms of the church we inherited from our elders, will continue until we arrive at the final "divine" form of that mysterious woman clothed in the sun..standing on the moon described in Rvelations 12.
Until we figure her out we are still tinkering with the old wine skins..the myriad of old forms..reform..reform..and reforming yet again, but that is not the form that "She represents,is it? Remember, there is a whore from Babylon to show the door first, once we recognize her and give her a chance to repent!.
Awesome image by Sean Mayfield
here are a few reviews that applaud the book that is trying t "btrak the old mold that has prevailed for the last 1,700 years.
"PAGAN CHRISTIANITY contains a wide variety of interesting and helpful historical information of which most Christians - or non-Christians - will be completely unaware. The book identifies - in part or in whole - the pagan roots of many of our current church practices, as well as indicates some borrowed from earlier Jewish or, occasionally, more recent Customs."
Robert Banks, New Testament scholar, author of "Paul's Idea of Community" and "The Church Comes Home."
"This feisty book attacks the incipient paganism that has been absorbed into historic Christianity over the years. It exposes the syncretistic weak spots in what we assume to be basic in our way of doing church. Thoroughly iconoclastic, it is also at the same time a good apologetic for the house church movement which has strong restorationist impulses. My guess is that it will anger some readers and thrill others. I am one of the latter. Whatever, it won't be too easy to dismiss as it is really well researched and substantiated. I think it is definitely worth the read even if I do think it is a tad purist in tone. Just don't drop it-it is likely to explode."
Alan Hirsch, author of "The Forgotten Ways" and "The Shaping of Things to Come."
and here are some interesting insights that may dispel the excitement of this the latest form that people will experiment with.
Viola, Barna, and the Church 3: Domus Ecclesiae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0bRFJijk1w
Viola, Barna, and the Church 4: Constantine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2lwmp6RFOc
Viola, Barna, and the Church 5: Basilicas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8zHYI2xnYs
Viola, Barna, and the Church 6: Gothic Cathedrals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSTt7vkHCIE
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